Chaos in the Nitijela -- The V-I-J Debacle
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Posted: Oct 19, 2009 - 10:33 PM
From an anonymous contributor:
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Posted: Oct 19, 2009 - 11:55 PM
Darn right all those talking going on are waste of time! It is very obvious that the general population =) of the RMI want a new president.
The current ministers will oppose this resolution (i.e John Silk) concerning their own ministeries.
Ijo rebwod ie ne, rejjab lemnak kin emmonlok eo an RMI ak rej lemnak wot kin jea ko rej jijet ie.
President is a good man, but he is not the right man for the Head of State job. =)
And.....most of the guys in our Nitijela gotsssss to go NOW! I say again...let the young, bright and smart RMIs take over with you(old folks in Nitijela) work on their side as a counsel or some. Anything but your current jobs =)
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Posted: Oct 20, 2009 - 12:18 AM
I agree. I also agree that the President is a good man and I respect him but he's not right man to lead the nation.
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Posted: Oct 20, 2009 - 02:21 AM
What your anonymous contributor failed to mention was: Sen. Notes prepared statement and allegations were basically towards his own failings in his administration. It will be interesting to see the current administration's response.
In my own opinion, Sen. Note had the guts to bring up Kwajalein issues when it was HE who did NOT want to cooperated with the Kwajalein Negotiating Committee. I wonder how he sleeps at night...
edited by: E_Kutak, Oct 20, 2009 - 07:22 AM
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Posted: Oct 20, 2009 - 04:48 AM
Both Litokwa and Kessai were in the "Kessai administration" and the masters in the UDP party. Now, they are going against each other. While going at it, it is sad to see the speaker expressing fear when a Senator like Morris shoutout loud as if the debate is taking place underneath the Alele museum or at the uliga dock. Mr.Speaker, have you forgotten your power to remove Senator Morris out of the Nitijela chamber? I would rather see you do the removal than to say that you fear Senator Morris, and that the floor can be given to him all day? If you can't, I suggest that the poduim is given to v-speaker Alik.
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Posted: Oct 20, 2009 - 11:53 AM
The lines between parties are so blurred now you can hardly say there are parties.
So you have the current cabinet, which has UPP members, UDP members, and an AKA member (Jack Ading). As mentioned above, Kessai and Litokwa used to be on the same side, but that alliance ended 2 days before the last election.
I will remind people that in 1996, after Amata died, Tony Debrum nominated Kessai to run against Imata because Imata and Tony were bitter enemies. Then Imata and Tony became friends and Kessai and Litokwa became the enemies. Then Kessai and Litokwa became enemies, which caused Imata, Litokwa and Tony to become friends, so Kessai was again the enemy. Then Tony and Litokwa became enemies, so Imata, Tony and Kessai became friends so now Litokwa is the enemy. Then you have all these Ministers who keep flopping around between these various leaders, indeed, only 7 current senators have yet to get cars (i.e., be Ministers) in the last 4 years counting the last 3 administrations, and this is a really big problem because everyone needs a car.
There is that old expression, keep your friends close and your enemies closer. In the RMI the expression is: keep your enemies close and your enemies closer because you really don't have any friends because loyalty has eroded here and no one trusts anyone anymore.
In politics loyalty is cherished for a reason. When loyalty goes away, all you have is chaos, and that is what we have today in the RMI. When Kessai read those charges, it wasn't just against the current administration, these are charges, to me, against the last 10 years of government and the entire Nitijela. I don't think the current members of the Nitijela understand what the original poster is talking about, there really is an enormous amount of dissatisfaction with "government," and it has nothing to do with who is running the show. From the outside looking in, all we see are people jockeying for political position, it doesn't have a lot to do with good governance and caring for the people of the Marshall Islands, even though they say this over and over again. If they truly cared, they would stop all of this infighting and get to work. As MOLEO mentions below there is still no election law fix, etc. There is a lot to do, yet all we get are debates about gold pins and dress codes and procedures for the vote of no confidence.
Whomever is president after this particular dust cloud clears should expect a vote of no confidence sometime in the next session, undoubtedly while the president is on the road or in the air or on a boat.
Very sad.
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Posted: Oct 20, 2009 - 12:27 PM
Good morning all,
Here is the fact that need to follow:
Before we go with the VONC, for the third time?
May I please ask the following?
What is going on with the Election 2007: Commission of Inquiry?
I think President and Iroij Tomeing should complete this before he leaves the President seat. If not then Nitijela should choose either Christopher Loeak or Jurelang Zedkeia, and still put Tony de Brum as Minister… who were not part of the Election disaster “criminal†activity. It means that those who got involved should not run again for President or Minister seat for example, Kessai Note, the great failure and his former Ministers. Shame, Shame, Shame on you guys. It already set in the records who they were; which our Justice system had no procedures to correct them or no such law that would get rid of them for this kind of repeated crime. Otherwise the whole RMI people have the authority to impeach all of them (all former UDP) by referendum – if constitutionally valid. What the former UDP senators are trying to do now is to find a way in to get back to “power†to do the same thing that occurred in 2007 election. It is an attempt to mix up with the AKA whom are seeking their lost administration to someone who was part of the problem, ending up gaining the power using the same tactic alone.
There is guarantee that if the ELECTION administration changes its voting system, there would be no guarantee for some of the senators to come back for another term within the Nitijela. Therefore, Nitijela reliable Senators, especially those that don’t know the Election Administration Act (Office’s weaknesses are). It is a warning to you to think twice of doing this VONC III, wisely and make it rarely. Whoever is running the Ministry of IOIA should start doing a solid plan that would control the Voting process to be somewhat in a hard foundation and follow the following; The Chief Electoral officer should be someone who knows how to run the system accordingly and if:
• Act independently from candidate and Ministers, especially IOIA Minister and Secretary.
• “Internally controlled†no bias or chaos re: staff, documents, communication
• Start restructuring the members of election officers per atoll and island to avoid favorite to candidate.
• Since Majuro and Ebeye which carried the heavy load of voters should be carefully watch and have all the documents on hand ready to go.
• all ballots and registration documents should be sequentially controlled w/carbon copy form and by atoll and island and States (USA) codes
(i.e. Arkansas voter forms: Registration Form ARK00001) and so on…
• all voided documents should be kept for internal control & audit
• listing of voters by atoll and island and by USA states ready in advance one year before election year – by end of 2010 it’s ready.
• Tabulation and counting area should be ready and all cleared for vote watcher to check electoral officers – staff…
• all ballot boxes should be lock properly with secured lock that has no duplicate key only by two watch dog from each respective party and CEO, all must know the location and access to key in a secure place.
• US absentee boxes should be set with locks send along with documentation to each respective Consulate and Embassy or designated voting place to electoral officer to received and send back to Majuro with secure and proper handling to avoid fraud.
• Send officer that consider no favorite to either political parties.
• There must be more but I am out now…voters please help me with this.
• Others duties assigned by VOTERS…. If law need to be amended Nitijela should act ASAP or by end of this year 2009.
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Posted: Oct 20, 2009 - 02:05 PM
clearly there is a "poison" fish among the nitijela and"must" be removed ASAP. this power hungry maniac is behine all of these chaos,but the fact is he is the resaon RMI is where its at right now..Fricken maniac is enjoying the show right now! while RMI is in chaos! -
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Posted: Oct 20, 2009 - 04:49 PM
Are there any current news on the VONC?
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Posted: Oct 20, 2009 - 05:58 PM
Ijela ke ebok wot im bok lal en. Aolep rejjab konan jijet lok jen jea kan aer.
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Posted: Oct 20, 2009 - 06:30 PM
Note and Tomeing are the same. Tomeing jockeyed for position when the winds of change blew during the 2007 election. He knew the only way to get the top position after years as speaker was to go with the coalition, and the coalition needed him.
Now Note, whose 8 year administration was based on "status quo", and who continually blamed the previous (before 1999) administrations for all his problems, thought "here's my chance" after his own party was tired of him.
Neither are creative thinkers or producers. They are both "yes, men" and lack new vision for what the Marshalls could be. They both say, "this is what the people want" in reality it is what they want.
That is what Tomeing did. He came in on a sweep of people's desire for change, then ignored the people's wishes, dumping the change makers when it didn't suit him.
For years that "dissatisfaction" has been expressed on this website. Here again, the people's opinion is not deemed important.
Funny thing, is they say everything they are doing is for the people, but they don't listen to the people.
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Posted: Oct 20, 2009 - 07:28 PM
17 aet im 15 jab. Alikar ke wa in ej jobel ijin im kottar.
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Posted: Oct 20, 2009 - 07:34 PM
Who is really playing the VONC?
Everybody,Everybody,....When you really look into a microscope..You will see lot of killer germs,,,I am proud because Litokwa Tomeing is our President..at the sametime I am still questioning his VONC to the Ri Majol..Why he really vote of no confidence "RI MAJOL"?Ij tomak emoj lon leen atoke(Garden) eo Late President Amta Kabua ear Katoke.Lajima ewor ke am al in Christmas bro? bwe kemean en ekatak nan Christmas in..Komol Aeenet kin ien in. -
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Posted: Oct 20, 2009 - 08:52 PM
A new Chapter is waiting to unfold. We learned the cause of all the hardship in Kwajalein and Why there was that great "PUSH" towards the "CON-CON" to "REEXAMIN" and "REDEFINE" legislations and laws that would have sucked the "MAJOLESE" out of all of us.
Will "power" outages and rolling blackouts return?
The "YES MEN" is definately accurate. I do have one question though. Will V7 Emman or whatever that radio station was be transmitting interviews from TUVALU now? I am just curious.
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Posted: Oct 20, 2009 - 09:19 PM
Mr. Yokwe,
Now that the dust is settled, can I kindly ask that the front cover of your site be removed as soon as possible. Thank you.
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